In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Tom Krause—pioneer in behavior-based safety and co-founder of BST (now part of DEKRA) and the Krause Bell Group—to explore the evolution of safety leadership over the past few decades. Dr. Krause shares his journey from clinical psychology to safety innovation, dives into the critical importance of behavioral context in workplace safety, and highlights the dangers of stopping at “blame the employee.” 

We discuss the enduring influence of Deming, the pitfalls of Heinrich’s model, the cultural challenges organizations face, and the untapped power of decision analysis in preventing serious incidents. You’ll also hear insights from his work with NASA post-Columbia and how upward communication and leadership buy-in can make or break a safety culture. 

Whether you’re a safety leader, operations manager, or just passionate about creating safer work environments, this is a must-listen packed with decades of hard-won wisdom. 

🎧 Tune in to challenge assumptions, spark new ideas, and reimagine what real safety leadership looks like.