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Lessons From the Cockpit: Why Culture Eats Checklists for Breakfast

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Safety Spotlight Podcast - Episode 8

In this episode, we sat down with Jeff “Odie” Espenship and had an incredible conversation around safety culture. The former A-10 Warthog pilot is the founder of Target Leadership.

Listen as he shares hard-earned lessons from 10,000 feet up, and rock bottom. We talk truths in safety, leadership, and the split-second choices that shape a legacy. 

What You’ll Learn: 

  • From Cockpit to Culture: How Odie went from airshows to safety keynotes, and why culture eats checklists for breakfast. 
  • The Shortcut That Changed Everything: The devastating true story of one small deviation and the origin of Jeff’s mission. 
  • Normalization of Deviance: Why “just this once” is never just once. 
  • Leadership Is Emotional: If you want people to care about safety, start with empathy, not enforcement. 
  • What Real Leadership Looks Like: It’s not about titles. It’s about doing the right thing when no one’s watching. 
Target Leadership

This episode isn’t just for safety pros. C'est for anyone who makes decisions that could cost someone else everything. Odie’s message is clear: The real danger isn’t risque. C'est routine. And the best leaders lean into protecting their teams from falling into the trap of complacency. 

Learn more at TargetLeadership.com  

Find Odie on LinkedIn: Jeff “Odie” Espenship 

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